so, we've got mark harris in atlanta who's connected to an organization, occupy our homes atlanta, which is a manifestation from the occupy movement. he's a veteran, has been evicted from his home and is fighting, cannot find affordable housing in the city of atlanta to be able to stay. and so, telling his story puts an actual human being behind the idea. it allows people to see him, to see roline burgison, who's another one of our members from providence, rhode island, who is paying 70 percent of her income to rent. so, what are the choices that she has to make around the quality of food that she's able to put on the food for her children, where she can send her kids to school, if she can send her kids to school. how she's able to get back and forth to work. knowing these people, understanding them, is the best way to be able to make those linkages. >> madeline janis: i think what it takes to win is all of these elements together. >> rachel laforest: that's right. >> madeline janis: and we have to be really thoughtful and we have to recognize that it's a long haul. so we have to have, w